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Unread 07-08-2013, 03:10 PM   #1
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serial #173612

I believe it is a grade one from 1916. Not sure about original barrel length and so forth. Any help would be appreciated. Also if there are members in the Va. Bch. area that might be able to help, I would be more than willing to drive to them and ask for an opinion. It does have a cracked buttplate. Thank you.
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173612 shows as 28 inch capped pistol grip grade 0 plain twist 12 gauge
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Mark, you are correct. It should be a Grade 1, or PH hammerless.
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Mark, you are correct. It should be a Grade 1, or PH hammerless.

when the book says "PT" - the grade code list in the book shows PT as grade 0 plain twist,

is that meant to say P grade with twist? The "PP" says "grade 1(PH)" with steel barrels?

so both are PH's and the difference is the barrel material?
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Thanks guys now I am really confused. LOL
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It does have a capped pistol grip, 28 inch barrels and the stock has what looks like a brass medallion embedded in it that looks like a federal type symbol. Buttplate is marked with a one and I believe the frame size is 1 1/2. It is a 12 gauge.
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What does the inscription on the barrel rib say and what in the alpha-numeric designation on the left water table say? That will help verify what the serialization book has in it.
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Barrel says 4-030 Parker Bros. Makers Meridian Conn Twist ??? cant make it out.
Water table has a T, 3 15, 12, 1 1/2 and JG in a circle. Inside frame has what looks like PHO and a P under the serial number.
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P grade with twist steel barrels and that would equate to a grade 0
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Jim, That would be a grade 1 gun....
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