44 game getter

[charlie cleveland]

have just bought a single barrel iver johnson 44...dont have it in hand yet...gun is suppose to also fire the 410 2 1/2 inch shell... any of yall ever shot or used one of these little guns... or shot the 44 ball load i dont imagine the 44 ball load has much knockdown power but i can use a liile imagination... charlie

[Roundsworth]

It sounds like a cool little gun, Charlie. What is the barrel marked, in regards to caliber? The 'Game Getter' shot cartridge used the 44 WCF case with a flush seated topwad. The 44 XL used the same case with a long shot container. The Game Getter also used the 44 WCF case with a round ball. The Game Getter cartridges were headstamped '44 G.G.' Try to find the Ideal loading tool, specifically for the 44 XL! Someone here has an original Game Getter and probably has more info on ammunition. Post a photo of your new shotgun, I am curious to see it!

[charlie cleveland]

the gun is still in the mail works should have it by saturday...in there pictures its marked just 44...thats a good picture of the 44 shot shell...these guns should make a close range squirl gun what do you think... charlie

[edgarspencer]

Charley, Is the Iver Johnson called a 'Game Getter' or are you just calling it that?
The reason I ask is the Marbles made a variety of short barreled guns with a folding skeleton stock that was also called The Game Getter.
For a long time, people kept them hidden in their underwear drawer because it was a class 1, category 3 firearm by the ATF. To the best of my knowledge, they are now classified as a curio, but may require a $5 stamp. I'm not about to call and ask though.

[Jeff Mayhew]

I may be wrong, but a "curio" just means it can be sent to a C&R license holder; doesn't change the NFA classification. My understanding is that any shoulder-stocked weapon (meaning, manufactured that way, regardless of present configuration) with barrels under 18" is an AOW ("any other weapon") because it is a "short-barreled rifle." An old Colt cap-and-ball pistol (or any pistol, like a broom-handle mauser or luger w/shoulder-stock case) fitted to accept a shoulder-stock is not an SBR, because it was made as a pistol. Don't think too hard about it, it'll just make your head hurt.

The other complication is state laws, which vary on ownership of NFA stuff.

[charlie cleveland]

now im confused im going to have to wait to get the little gun to see what it says it is... qwner said it was 44 marked and would shoot the 410 2 1/2 inch shell...ive not got to worry about thebig bows the little gun has a fixed shoulder stock and look to be 26 inch barrel... charlie

[ch]

I thought you shot a 45 cal. in a 410 or using my floppy disk wich is pretty floppy. Or maybe i'm thinking of shooting a 410 in a 45 70 maybe it fire formes?

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Jeff Mayhew

I may be wrong, but a "curio" just means it can be sent to a C&R license holder; doesn't change the NFA classification.

It's a lot more than the shipping Jeff.Yes, a C&R licensee can ship and receive, but the devil is in the definition of what a Curio or Relic actually is.
Maybe this will shed some light on it:

http://www.atf.gov/publications/down...chapter-10.pdf

[charlie cleveland]

have the little 44 in hand now...the top of gun is marked 44 cal. ...... its a smooth borei shot a 410 slug 2 1/2 inch in it....accuracy was amazing at 40 yards it was dead on...guns been rechambered to except 410 2 1/2 shell...its in pretty good shape still tite but has a lot of little dings in the wood...no tellin how many kids have toted the little gun or what type of grociers they took home with them years ago....will try it on squirls before long mite take a slug along with me just in case a deer comes by...its been hangin on the wall for 30 years thought id give it another chance..... charlie

[Jeff Mayhew]

Charlie is this your new gun (below)? A "Champion" shotgun originally chambered for .44 shotshell? Apparently it was very common to modify these for 410 shells.