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Unread 08-09-2009, 01:53 PM   #1
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I acquired a G grade Parker a couple of years ago in a Horse Trade. I had wanted a vintage side by side for some time and grabbed this opportunity ( i now have three). The serial number on my G Grade is 91493 and was made in 1899. It also has fluid steel barrels with all serial numbers matching on the barrels, for end and stock. There is a repair code stamped on the barrels of ph3. Which I understand this to mean it went back to the Parker / Remington factory in 1936 or 37. Now, here is my question . I think this gun originally was fitted with Damascus barrels and later in 36 or 37 was refitted with fluid steel. If this is correct would the factory have kept the original barrels or as I think a former owner sold them. If anyone has a guess please chime in . Or better yet, if someone has a set of Damascus barrels with the above serial number please let me know. Thanks Jack
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Jack,What does the rib say?
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There is nothing stamped on the rib . It is a plain rib
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Hmm..I would think that 1936/1937 they would still be using barrels made at the Meriden works. Never say never....
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Hmm..I would think that 1936/1937 they would still be using barrels made at the Meriden works. Never say never....
I agree Dave, never say never. Pictures would definitely help out. Maybe the rib was replaced at one time or maybe its a Belgian replacement set.
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On the barrell flats it say's overload proved and parker guns works

It also say's made in the U.S.A.
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Jack,I would think you are correct that the gun originally had damascus barrels.At the time Vulcan Steel was being offered on VH grade guns and Titanic steel on D grade guns. Judging by your observation of barrel flat markings I would venture a quess that the barrels are Parker made. Could you post some pictures of the flats and a good quality photo of the rib. That will tell the story...
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Your Remington repair codes denote June of 1939, within the time that unmarked ribs are probably used on many new guns as well as rebarrels. You seem to have a legitimate Remington rebarrelled Damascus era Parker. I would suspect that Remington trashed all Damascus barrels that were sent in for rebarrel jobs. You have a rather unusual variation of Parker history.
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Jack,Your gun 91493 is listed in the "Serialization Book" as a D2 12ga. 28" PG gun with no extras.
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I don't know if these pics will show the stamp code or the Parker gun works stamp but here is what I got .
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