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Experts on Guns and Shooting George Teasdale Teasdale-Buckell 1900
http://books.google.com/books?id=4xRmHkr7Lp8C On the subject of steel v. Damascus, Mr Stephen Grant is very clear, and much prefers Damascus for hard working guns. He related an anecdote of one of his patrons, whose keeper stupidly put a 12-bore cartridge into his master’s gun without knowing that he had previously inserted a 20-case, which had stuffed up the barrel. Fortunately, no burst occurred, but a big bulge, which, however, Mr Grant hammered down, and the gun is now as good as ever.
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12-31-2010, 08:53 PM | #4 | ||||||
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Wow Drew. That is impressive. No blown barrel from that!? Unbelievable. You'd think it would totally petal the barrel into a piece of art good for only a lamp stand from then on.
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Who makes 3" 10 ga steel shot? I didnt think there was ever a market for that so the ammo companies never tried to make it.
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Maybe Brad can clarify. If he was using 3" steel shot loads then I suspect the gun was equipped with chamber mates or the like and he was shooting 12ga 3" steel shot shells. 10 gauge 2 7/8" factory loads went by the wayside in the 70's long before steel shot was mandated. I don't think there was ever a factory steel shot short ten load.
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Those were my guesses as well, however the validity of extreme pressure claims seem to pertain to the specifics of the loads used. Thus I was asking for more clarity. If I could shoot steel from my damascus 10 ga with short chambers, I probably would. But, there are a lot of factors involved, not the least of which is complete unavailability of suitable factory ammo. With all due respect to Brad, that post read to the opposite extreme of the "damascus is junk" nonsense but with similar (possibly innaccurate) anectdotal information which generally devalues the position that Damascus barrels can be safe to shoot with smokeless loads of safe pressures in safe guns blah blah blah
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01-03-2011, 07:56 AM | #8 | ||||||
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Sorry for the typo I meant 3 1/2 not 3. Winchester drylocks measure 2.92 crimped, federal premiums measure 3.05 crimped.
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01-03-2011, 08:41 AM | #9 | ||||||
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Not sure of the gun maker, but a bulge in 10g damascus twist (one iron crolle-twist laminate) barrel after having the chamber reamed to 3 1/2" and an application of steel shot loads
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So, our guy was shooting 3-1/2" modern shells in 2-7/8" chambers with short forcing cones with no problems. Impressive indeed.... but... not me. Never. And I'd guess not anyone else with knowledge on the issue on this forum either. Hats off to the old guy for still having a left hand and two eyes and functioning hearing... I'd be curious to see a list of the barrel wall thicknesses from breech to muzzle at some interval of around 2-3 inches.
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