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I talked recently with the PA Dealer that Ernie invites to his Northeast SxS and learned he’ll be at HH all three days to do Form 4473 transfers. His fee is $50. per gun as in the past.
FYI, just sayin that gun sales by PA Dealers to NY residents have gotten more complicated recently, to require an extra step for the Dealer to review the Form 4473 with a NYS? agent; and I know of several instances wherein the Dealer was on hold in queue for almost one hour. A local dealer told me he gives up after waiting for an inordinate time and declines doing the sale. Given that the phone service isn’t the best there at HH that may complicate things for gun sales to NY residents. |
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05-13-2023, 01:52 PM | #4 | ||||||
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As a PA dealer, I will not sell pump and semi auto shotguns, handguns or rifles to NY residents. If we even violate the NY Un-SAFE Act, the Nazi AG Letitia James will go after everyone involved with the sale. Won't sell to NJ residents either.
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05-13-2023, 07:33 PM | #5 | ||||||
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Stick to pre-1897 guns only.
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05-14-2023, 01:37 AM | #7 | ||||||
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Kinda hard to enforce with so many already running under the radar
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Frank I have never heard of a review with a NYS agent. Does anyone know where that regulation is written??
There is a pending law in NYS to limit ammo purchases of all types to 80 rounds per month when the ammo background system goes live. If that passes This will kill the shooting sports in NYS. If this happens it will be the straw that breaks my back, I'm moving south. |
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05-14-2023, 08:51 AM | #9 | ||||||
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Craig, I don't know where that's cited in the regs. But 3X now when a NY resident drove to buy a gun here in PA and did the Form 4473, the Dealer we used couldn't get the NICS check/approval without being sidelined to talk with an agent. Once that was 10 minutes on hold and two other times it took about 20 minutes. Another Dealer friend I shoot with told me that's taken up to an hour on hold, and now he's gotten to wait a few minutes and if not picked up by an agent he declines to handle the transfer. His rather crude comment was (paraphrased) time is money and it's not worth it.
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Yeah. This is news to me. The transfers I have conducted recently have been business as usual. And the NICS is a fed deal, i do not see them forwarding calls to a state agent. When a transaction requires further review (which is not a new thing). The call is placed on hold and sent to a NICS examiner. The difference being that the initial person is a call center employee. Who is outside contracted and their only job is to plug in the 4473 info into the computer and wait for the reply from the system. The NICS examiner is exactly that, an actual FBI employee who is there to actually look at the records that tripped concern and they then allow, delay or deny the transaction.
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