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Looks like a good project gun that will dress up pretty nicely if redone some. Redo the barrels and I bet they're gorgeous. Wood looks excellent; just needs sprucing up and the forend recheckered. I bet this would be a beauty if restored.
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02-18-2021, 05:47 PM | #4 | ||||||
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What is the year of manufacture on this gun? Is it 1904 (as suggested in your other post in the new members section)?
I will give my thoughts after I know that tidbit of information.
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Brian- 1904 is correct by the serial number lookup. I know you have a level of expertise so was there something obvious you noticed about the stock being rechecked?
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Ok so I now see the wear difference in the checkering.
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02-18-2021, 06:33 PM | #7 | ||||||
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Ok. Thank you for confirming.
Generally speaking it is not uncommon for a forend to have a good deal more wear than the grip when it comes to checkering and finish as well. But in this case the difference is too great. The case with your gun is that the buttstock is a replacement. But... it is a factory replacement. From maybe the mid to late 1920s or ‘30s. Yes, evident by the newer appearance of the checkering. But also by the checkering pattern itself. The rounded bottom of the grip pattern was used during that later period. Also the style of the comb and the rest of the grip is of that later period. I have seen a number of guns like this in the past. Usually on these you will also find a large “R” stamped under the trigger guard bow along with the serial and grade stamps. But that is not a guarantee, just an observation I have seen on many of these types of guns with factory replaced stocks. And if it has the “dog bone” reinforcement in the front of the head, the. It would be from the Remington era. The PGCA letter may or may not mention the return for repair. It depends on if there are records or not. Now, the cheek checkering MAY be “original” to that factory replacement stock. It is in the right style for factory checkered cheeks. And it is in line with looking of the same age as the wrist checkering. But, without records confirming that it was a special request on the replacement stock, it will always be suspect. And it would be a special order request. Plenty of other examples of this have been seen on other guns and supported by letters. Now, the finish on the stock and the forend have certainly been added to over the years and the whole gun has seen a good amount of use. But with some cleanup it could be made to be more presentable. I personally always like these guns with factory replacement stocks, I used to own one very much like it. It means an old gun that has newer wood that would be much more sound and strong since it has less use on it. And it is still factory work.
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02-18-2021, 06:42 PM | #8 | ||||||
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No matter how much I read and try to learn, I feel like a puppy when I see how quickly others notice little details. I'm still looking for the "wrong screw holes in the floor plate..."
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02-18-2021, 08:41 PM | #9 | ||||||
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Andy the screw holes themselves are not wrong. The screws in the floor plate however may be in the wrong hole. Each of those screws is specific to its own hole. When they are put into the wrong hole the timing and or the seating of the screw may be incorrect as evidenced in the picture. By simply swapping the screws out and replacing them in the other hole it may clear that up.
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Randy thank you that explains a lot since I’ve seen many times references to screws not aligning properly. I assumed they were just not lined up by tightening properly because of a lazy gunsmith. Again I learn every day and thank you.
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