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Unread 03-16-2022, 12:15 PM   #1
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This showed up today from G & H advertised as a Paragon --

https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=101883232

Looks more like an A-Grade to me?
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Unread 03-16-2022, 03:56 PM   #2
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My Paragon #943PES had similar scrollwork but also had a very nicely done dog and bird on either side. Mine also had a Deeley latch forend fastener. I also had an A grade which shared some but not all similarities with this one.
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My two Paragons are stamped as such on the water table. Also both have birds and dogs engraved much better. One is a original Baker, the other a Folsom.
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I cannot see the engraving very well on my PC screen, even when expanded. A serial number [under 1200] would confirm that the gun is a Paragon. Later Paragons, around the 900 and 1000 ranges tended to have less engraving than earlier guns. It was still Mason engraving, but not quite as much detail. The Model Nineteen Nine Paragons often had engraving by another, but their serial numbers were usually in that same 1000-1100 range.
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I was going by the unengraved breechballs, the fact that the lug doesn't extend beyond the surface of the bottom of the frame, the plain patches of checkering on the grip and forearm and the plain unprofiled black tip in the forearm. The wood and checkering are exactly like B-Grade serial number 2048, but 2048 is a one-pin lock.

I saved out one of the pictures and played with it and the serial number might be 2356 but I wouldn't swear to that.
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Dave , you could be right. Bakers vary sometimes. I do think I have Paragons and higher that have that flat detail at the protrusion through the underside of the bar. I’ll have to check on the breech ball engraving, that could be telltale . Of course, a serial number would solve it all.
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The Paragons I've recorded up to the 88x range have the protruding lug.

886 05.jpg

An L and an N Grade in the 9xx range have the flush finished lug as does PKE 1050.

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By serial number 1124, the next Paragon I've recorded, it is a Model Nineteen Nine.
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Here is a Paragon #1014 for comparison. Is this the nineteen nine? I have never heard of that model?
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The Model Nineteen Nine no longer has the draw block on the sides of the lug engaging the recesses in the frame, but has a new vertical rotary bolt, and a different shaped lockplate.

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Thanks Dave. I see mine is not the Nineteen Nine. By the way, the water table is stamped P. E..
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