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Unread 11-27-2009, 10:55 PM   #1
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http://www.prlog.org/10306301-parker...m-auction.html

What can anyone tell me about this sign? A new one on me, where were these distributed or used?

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Unread 11-28-2009, 02:44 AM   #2
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I have seen only pictures of it close up and I would bet it is a "fantasy " item. It just does not look "quality" enough or of the period as far as design and paint.Advertising signs of that period(1890's-1910) are pretty fancy and very well done and this one just does not look like it from the pictures I have seen. I could do better on my own and I am not that great at lettering.I would never believe that Parker Brothers would allow something so ordinary and unattractive to advertise their best gun.
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Unread 11-28-2009, 09:36 AM   #3
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I dunno. I would like to own one, but I've never seen any early documentation of such a sign. I wonder in what part of the country the first one showed up. That may be a clue.
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I have had access to many turn of the century advertising pieces and this one does not add up.Too plain and not large enough for something commissioned by a company like Parker Brothers. They were too proud of their product to have something like this out there. The lettering is just not well done and a very unattractive font.Look at their logo on other company advertising and see what they probably would have come up with.
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If you look close at the gun, the carving on the stock is D or C grade type. It's not the fleur de lis that a AA pigeon would have had. If Parker had made these signs to advertise that particular gun I think they'd have made the gun on the sign at least look like one. Fantasy item that somebody paid wayyyyy too much for.

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Unread 11-28-2009, 05:56 PM   #6
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The gun looks like the lamp Parkers, which were D grades with receivers not quite to scale. The lamp guns are 22" long. This looks like one of those for sure. I'll be in the workshop if you need me. How do you spell Invincible?
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Like Bill I have never seen such a sign either.The couple I have seen were all lettering.And Destry brings up a good point..You would think the gun would at least be close to a AA Grade.

Robert,I don't doubt your expertise.Have you seen one of these signs in person?

Bill, Lamp guns?
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I have seen close up photos of one of these signs. There is a lot of interest in early advertising signs and one of the bigger auctions is right here in Iowa for this kind of stuff. Early signs were usually very well done and very decorative. The lithograph process allowed bright colors and the lettering was usually a very decorative style and not plain like the sign in question.Sign painting was an art and these men were artists and very skilled. Reverse painted on glass,gold leaf,elaborate borders,embossed tin,these are the things that are usual for turn of the century signs and some company like Parker with the money and expertise available to them would not have had a sign like this made. Check out the pictures of the extant Winchester signs that have been verified and sold at auction. Parker would not have settled for less,no way.
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Robert,Thanks for the education..
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Bill-tell or show us more regarding the lamp and bookend Parkers!!!!

Robert-I agree the sign is crude and not norm of the quaility of Parker things, BUT...take a look at some of the photos of Parker exhibits at such as the 1896 Sportsmens Exposition (EDM's Old reliable book pg 100)maybe these signs could've been used at such a venue? I've seen another old photo from a Parker exhibit from some sportsmans expo with fairly crude decor. It sure would be neat to see what kinds of supporting materials there might have been at these exhibits!

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