Help with Parker gun ID's

Kurt Hess · 08-14-2009, 08:39 PM

I need help and any info on a parker brothers shotgun i have. its very old. the date stamped on the barrles is Nov. 13, 1866. I do know that is a 'stub twist' barrel gun. Frame size is a 5 i believe and Grade is a 2(?). Not sure of serial number as what i do have i cant get any info on. If any one can help, please feel free to call me personally. (570)418-1090 is my cell phone and its always on.
Thanks,
Kurt Hess

Labowner · 08-14-2009, 09:22 PM

Kurt, please try and give us your serial number I can look it up and tell you how it left Parker. It sounds like you have a large frame 10 ga. or a 8 ga. with that 5 frame. On the barrel flats there should be barrel weight 4 14 , 4lbs. 14oz. Bob

John D. · 08-14-2009, 09:22 PM

Hi Kurt!

First - Howdy and Welcome!

Second - I'm going to move your post to the Main Discussion Forum, OK? It will get a lot more view in that area of the site rather then this forum..

Again - Welcome!

John

Kurt Hess · 08-14-2009, 09:53 PM

from what i get off the barrels is a "t 4507" i dont know if this is the serial but that is all i see. Hope this helps...

Labowner · 08-14-2009, 10:22 PM

4507 is listed as a 12 ga. grade 2 under lifter with 30" twist barrels no options. If your able please post a few pictures.
Bob

Kurt Hess · 08-14-2009, 10:27 PM

this only has 28" barrels and its either a 8 or 10 ga i do know. Frame size is 5 and grade is maybe 2. The words stub twist is printed right on the barrels. I guess i need more idea's of where to look and what to look for as the gun is not in my possition right now. But i can get pics tommorrow to see if you can help.

Dollar Grade · 08-15-2009, 08:28 PM

If it is a 5 frame it is probably a 10ga but could be a really heavy 12 or a light 8 bore. If it is a grade 2 it should have damascus bbls not stub twist. The number you found may be the order number. Look for a number on the water table of the action, on the forend iron or trigger guard, that will be the serial number. Post some pictures if you can. SN4507 would be a really early lifter and may even be a back action gun

SN14590 is from the other post and it isn't in the book. mfg about 1879, we need pictures...

Good luck,
kurt

Labowner · 08-15-2009, 09:52 PM

Stub Twist is a early form of Damascus which the stubs of horse shoes and nails that had been worked on the anvil were used as the steel, Damascus being a combination of steel and iron. Least that is what I remember reading about it.
Bob

Kurt Hess · 08-17-2009, 07:49 PM

i did find the serial number is 4507. Its marked on the barrels, stock, trigger guard, and fore peice. and i do now have pics of both guns that i have!

Kurt Hess · 08-17-2009, 07:53 PM

this is the 4507 serial matching numbered, stub twist barrelled gun.