Really Nice, High Condition, SC at Auction

[edgarspencer]

In Red Hook, NY, Saturday night. They have a bunch of so-so guns, and this nice SC

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item...1st2nd-yr-prod

[Researcher]

Nice. Except for the two Parkers, a high percentage of the other guns in the auction have the original butt plates!! Marlin Model 90, Three-Barrel Gun Co. 12 x 12 x .32-40, 1925 L.C. Smith Field Grade, American Gun Co. 12-gauge hammer gun, etc.

[mobirdhunter]

Thanks, Edgar, for posting this. So, do you think it will bring what they estimate. I have no clue about SBT guns, but from what little I've seen, that estimate seems a bit...ambitious. But the condition, and the, at least for me, unusual half grip make it a very nice example.

[Dean Romig]

I agree the estimate is ambitious but the bidders will tell us it’s value, considering of course the 23.5% buyer’s premium...

So if it hammers at $4k the buyer will have to shell out close to $5k including shipping.



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[Pa SxS]

Looks like a crack in the for-end wood at the metal or possibly a scratch. Not one of the real early ones, no plug for access to the firing pin found on the real early guns. Thats a strange looking goose on my later gun. What did it sell for ?

[edgarspencer]

The SC hammered at $3000, however, there seems to be some very irregular results thus far. I was high bidder on the Model 12, but it was awarded to a much lower bid. another member placed his bid at 8:30 this morning, and it was more than 50% over the hammer on the 32"GH. He's been in contact with the hosting service, and they asked if he was willing to go to his max bid, perhaps they could convince the "winner" to let it go. There's things that make me go hmmm, and then there's things that smell funny and make me go Ahem.

[Dean Romig]

Sounds a bit (intentionally) skewed, as in crooked.





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[Hammer Gun]

It's happening more and more! Gary

[edgarspencer]

Nothing skewed or underhanded. Just a crappy Proxy Service. The Proxy-server that George Cole is signed up with is Liveauctioneers.com. When an interested party signs up to bid in the auction, his bidding limit is assigned, and it seems to be random, and discriminatory. I was given a bidding limit of $2000, and was (very much) later told if I wanted a higher limit to contact the 'auctioneer' ahead of time. Presumably you would then have to give a credit card. Apparently the only way you would know beforehand, was in a confirmation email, which I never saw. So much for having an 843 credit rating.

With the exception of the SC, I knew all these guns, and was only interested in the Model 12, but another member, wanted the 32" GH, and was given a $1000 max credit. Both he and I gave George both barrels (see what I did there?) and he said Liveauctioneers cost him a LOT of money. I do know a bidder who wanted the SC and was prepared to go some, and he signed up a few hours before the auction went live, and was given a $2000 limit (the gun was already at $2500) and he said @#$%^& it and walked away.

George Cole Bought these guns. They weren't consigned. The internet bidding starting bids were his cost, rather than using the confusing term "reserve". Nothing wrong with that. My bid wasn't recognized by the proxi for some yet-to-be-explained reason, but George told me the following day that he saw it. I bought the gun from him at an amount halfway between the live auction starting amount and my high bid. I do not know if anyone else bid.

[Dean Romig]

You bought the Model 12?





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