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Andy, it is my belief that Rio hulls are made by Cheddite, look at the head stamp. I have bought them and cut them down (to 2 1/2") when I could find no others, couldn't tell the difference when loading. As a teenager just starting to reload shot shells I shot up pounds of Unique in a 20 ga. 870. Check manufacturer data looking for sub 1200 FPS loads, Alliant website has several low velocity loads showing unique and Orange Duster wads with light shot weights. As the hulls may be different, back well off the max load and pay close attention for pressure signs. It is generally NOT RECOMMENDED TO SUBSTITUTE ANYTHING IN A PUBLISHED LOAD but I use several loads that started with non published component combinations to this day.
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Good suggestion on the BP manual.
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Keith and Randy thank you very much. I have the Rio manual, along with all of their Advantages manual. The problem is having either the powder or the wad that is listed in the recipe. I Suspected the Rios were the same as the Cheddites as that’s what I have been reading online but I just wasn’t sure. I cut a Cheddite and Rio apart and they sure do look similar. Thank you for the help !
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If you look at the Alliant and Hogdons web sites you will find tested recipes. Also look at the Claybuster web site. He has recipes using 700x with his 3/4 & 7/8 oz loads with Win, REM, and Federal hulls, tapered and straight wall hulls. Down range purchased the Duster line of wads, and may have recipes on his web site. Is the Orange duster a Winchester (tapered hull) clone? Are Rios a tapered or straight internal hull?
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Andy, you might want to just call DR. They list the Orange Duster under Federal type wads in 20 ga. Typically newer vintage Federal are straight wall cases. BUT they also list them under Winchester type. When in doubt, call the manufacturer's tech guys. This will sort opinion , rumor, and fact.
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I'll do that tomorrow Keith, thank you.
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If you just can't find a workable combination and it'll keep a 12 year old shooting I'll bag up 100 of mine, Sporting "S" 20 ga. wads, and send'em to you. I use them in straight wall hulls like Cheddite, RST, etc. They will be short ( I use them in 2 1/2" shells) but card wads are cheap and still currently available. I also know of guys using Cherios and pinto beans to "bulk up" light loads so they crimp well!
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