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Unread 02-17-2019, 11:40 AM   #1
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Default More info on Parker Bros 10 gauge SxS

Hi all,

Just joined on here as I wanted to see if I could get a bit more information on this shotgun. Thanks in advance for all your help.

Friend of mine was given this Parker SxS by his neighbor. It is a 10 gauge with Twist Damascus barrels. Unfortunately the buttplate with a bird dog on it is cracked and another one is needed. I see patent dates on it as March 26th, 1878 on the bottom of the forearm but also a date of March 16th, 1875 with an “N” above it on the flat of the receiver but was wondering if anyone knew the actual year of manufacture? Serial 78092.

My friend does not plan on selling or shooting it and will be keeping it as a family heirloom but is curious about any recent auction selling prices for similar guns. He was also given the original paper shells with the gun and the original paperwork.

Relevant markings were photographed and linked.
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It is a NH or Grade 1 hammerless in 10 gauge. If it were a 12 gauge or smaller it would be a PH. It looks to be in original untouched condition - meaning nobody has done anything but shoot it and care for it.

It can be fired without fear with appropriate loads - the chambers probably being 2 5/8" or 2 7/8".

Nice one! - How long are the barrels? The Serialization & ID book says 30" and they appear to be uncut.





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It is a NH or Grade 1 hammerless in 10 gauge. If it were a 12 gauge or smaller it would be a PH. It looks to be in original untouched condition - meaning nobody has done anything but shoot it and care for it.

It can be fired without fear with appropriate loads - the chambers probably being 2 5/8" or 2 7/8".

Nice one! - How long are the barrels? The Serialization & ID book says 30" and they appear to be uncut.


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Hi Dean,

Excellent, thank you for the help my friend. As far as I am aware this gun has been shot only once. To my knowledge, the barrels are 30 inches but I could be wrong. Unfortunately I don't have the gun in front of me.
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Please put a picture of the original paperwork and shells. If they are original parker paper shells, the shells are worth more than the gun.
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Hi Dean,

As far as I am aware this gun has been shot only once.

I won't argue that point.... it has obviously not been used much.... maybe carried more than shot. But the engraving is still as sharp as when it was new and the finish on both the metal and the wood is basically very lightly worn.

There are others here who will freely give their opinions of its value... but my guess is that the owner is looking for insurance value which will always be higher than what someone would 'like' to pay for such a Parker.





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Easily a $2000.00 gun or more. Easily more. Great gun.
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Please put a picture of the original paperwork and shells. If they are original parker paper shells, the shells are worth more than the gun.
Will do. I will try to get my buddy to take a few pictures.
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I won't argue that point.... it has obviously not been use much.... maybe carried more than shot. But the engraving is still as sharp as when it was new and the finish on both the metal and the wood is basically very lightly worn.

There are others here who will freely give their opinions of its value... but my guess is that the owner is looking for insurance value which will always be higher than what someone would 'like' to pay for such a Parker.



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He was wondering about the value purely from a curiosity standpoint. I don't think he was planning on getting a policy for this gun. Thanks for your help
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Easily a $2000.00 gun or more. Easily more. Great gun.
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It is a very nice gun
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