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Never thought about it as a "loner-outer" |
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Never thought about it as a "loner-outer"
The gentleman that mentioned this Sears recall on some BA shotguns to me yesterday was sure that was some time ago. No BA centerfire weapon (Rifle or the scant few shotguns) IMO can compared with the K98 mauser and its clones (1903- M54 and M70 Winchester and others) but it has a milled slide groove on the left breech side of the bolt, and there is a flat headed threaded machine bolt that locks into the receiver and allows the shank to "ride" in that milled grove- also the receiver has a secondary bolt "stop" in the milled recess when the bolt is locked into battery-
I'm no Sherman Belch or even Tom Rooster when it comes to ballistics, but the pressure curve for shotshell powders, especially with pellet and not slug loads, is somewhat different than for a 30-06 or other CF calibers- so far so good- and if I bushwhack a Tom turkey with it this Fall, all good- we shall see! |
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09-26-2011, 04:58 PM | #4 | ||||||
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ive shot champion guns they are fair guns the 410 champion is sought after by lots of collectors...the bolt action higgins is a good gun they make very fine slug guns for deer... charlie
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I'll take that as Gospel brother Cleveland |
09-26-2011, 07:02 PM | #5 | |||||||
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I'll take that as Gospel brother Cleveland
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Amazing, at least to me, Charlie, is the .410 sub-bore collector cult. I wouldn't walk across the street on a bright sunny day to have a .410 given to me (unless it were a M42)- I bought the Champion 12 as a parts gun, it shoots fine, bore is good, metal finish a bit rough. The Higgins BA has a hairline crack in the one pc. stock right near the opening ahead of the trigger guard, so I am repairing that. I did a strip and clean on the bolt and action parts, all are fine-the side slide safety has a strange orientation, forward exposes the S, back moves the steel block to the rear under the bolt and allows the trigger to contact the sear pin and the weapon to fire. I put a big dab of red nail polish on the FIRE position. The Champion has 30" barrel, the Higgins 28" both mike at about Mod. to Imp Mod. By the way, my friend, I'll have another box of once fired 12 AA and Remmie green Trap hulls ready for you- enjoy. |
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09-26-2011, 08:59 PM | #6 | ||||||
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Maybe Mossberg was making the Sears BA gun for them. There has always been the warning told among shooters of the same problem with the Mossberg bolt flying back out of the receiver at the shooter's face. Might just be a rumor but rumors seem to start with a grain of truth somewhere.
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No "Mossenburgher" bulky grip and safety with green and red |
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No "Mossenburgher" bulky grip and safety with green and red
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Thanks for the input- i did a Google |
09-27-2011, 11:02 PM | #8 | ||||||
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Thanks for the input- i did a Google
No serial numbers on these guns- all were made by High-Standard from about 1946 to 1960- the first three numbers are 583- which was Sears store code for a shotgun made by High-Standard (in which they owned a 65% controlling $ interest then)--the suffix after the 583 is the key- mine is an early one 583.1-- from that series until 583.12 A-Ok, from 583.13 to 583.22 apparently the retaining machine screw that keeps the bolt in battery in the receiver had some heat treatment issues-
Back then a shooter with the shotgun shouldered fired a shot, jerked the bolt to cycle the action, the bolt lug sheared and he pulled the bolt back into his eye glasses- the force of the shell detonating in the chamber did not cause the bolt to move rearward however- Sears and their Phila lawyers did a CYA and recalled them, vis a vis buying back the bolts, initially at $160.00 a copy- later at a $50.00 Sears gife card (smart marketing move, as you could only use it to buy mdse. from Sears at their mark-up)-- Howsomever- as the 16 and 20 gauge J.C. Higgins 583 series (there are some listed on G.I. auction site under American Shotguns at $150.00 each) did not seem to have any problem- as HS used the same billet to machine all three gauges- so the initial wall thickness and the finished wall thickness on a 20 gauge J.C. Higgins was great- nominally the difference between the breech dia. of a 12 gauge and that of a 20 gauge- I have done the initial stock R&R (repair and reinforcing) will re-assemble it and off to the gun club range and the lead sled for the "proof testing"- I will Loc-tite that screw into the threaded hole in the receiver- you betcha--ya!!! |
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