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Unread 10-02-2024, 11:05 PM   #1
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Default Hammers on Lifter gun not set right

So I have an 1876 lifter gun that I I took apart because the left hammer was not at the correct position, it was always resting against the firing pin rather than having a bit of clearance, causing the firing pin to stick out a little at the breech. After I took it apart I saw there was a little bit of wear on the resting pin and mainspring so I tried to shim it but that didn’t fix the problem (it is not as thick as it appears in the photos and I will probably be removing it soon). I checked all the parts and I don’t see any bent parts compared to the right side which is fine. The only thing I can think of is that the hammer shaft must have spun in the press-fit. Has anyone run into this before? If it is the press fit, is there any way I can make it so it doesn’t slip again without welding it? This is a low-grade gun and I really don’t want to be dumping lots of money into it on complicated repairs.
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Unread 10-03-2024, 08:37 AM   #2
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Nothing LOOKS wrong from the pictures. But the hammer should be sitting back in the rebounded position like the right one. It is not really possible for the hammer to “spin” on the tumbler shaft as it is a tapered square shaft. They can looses up some with wear, but not move that much.
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Ok thanks. I was mainly considering buying another left hammer and heating & bending it to the correct position. I don’t want to do it on this hammer because it will probably ruin the original case hardening and I personally don’t have the capabilities to re-case harden it. All numbers match so it would make me feel better if it was a replacement part that I bent
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is it possible the left hammer isnt original to the gun?
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No, all numbers match. Serial 8342
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Is there something on the end of the main spring?
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That’s what it looks like to me Phil. That mainspring looks to have been altered/repaired in some way. That would alter the hammer position somewhat
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The OP said he tried a shim to see if it helped. That is what you are seeing.
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Thanks Brian. Maybe a new mainspring is the answer in
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I dont think it’s the mainspring, because when I put that shim in it helped a little but not much, not enough to fix it. Based on what I see, the problem is from the hammer shaft to the linkages, because the hammer itself is the same shape as the right, it’s just that when I line up both the square ends on the hammer shafts the locks point in different directions. So either that whole hammer shaft got twisted somehow, the shaft isn’t lined up correct/slipped on that main linkage (which I thought was the problem), or the linkages are bent somehow. None of these ideas seem plausible
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