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Value for Parker PH 12 ga SXS with parker steel barrels
Unread 07-18-2010, 12:47 PM   #1
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Hi all please forgive me i'm a newbie when it comes to Parker Bros shotguns,i'm trying to help a friend find out the value of his shotgun so he can get a fair price for it.
The shotgun is a PH model with Parker steel 30" barrels,frame size is 2,barrel weight is 4lbs 1oz,serial #202201.Bluing on barrels is very good +,very nice grain in the wood,but it does have some dings and scratches as any hunting gun would have.From what i read their where only 1339 PH models made with Parker steel barrels,it was made in 1922-23 and has double triggers.i was told it has the factory correct(dogs head) buttplate and grip cap,proper tang safety and really nice engraving for this model.Any help or info would be greatly appreciated,pics are available with your email,thanks in advance.
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Unread 07-18-2010, 10:33 PM   #2
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Perry: From what you describe I would estimate the value at $2,000-$2,500.

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Unread 07-19-2010, 12:39 PM   #3
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Here are some pics,looking for what it's worth thanks.
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Unread 07-19-2010, 12:52 PM   #4
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Looks to me like the stocks been cut and a different butt plate installed.
Unless those white lines and chips in the wood are just in the picture?
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Unread 07-19-2010, 01:15 PM   #5
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Yup, flat butt surface indicating that the gun is not an original butt plate gun unless it was cut for a pad. I am guessing that the length of this stock from the middle of front trigger to the middle of the buttplate is somewhat less than 14". With a nice original type pad installed professionally, crooked screws fixed, it will be a nice gun that will more than fit in with George's value estimate. All values are contingent on barrel measurements and originality. Great wood on this gun.
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Unread 07-19-2010, 01:29 PM   #6
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Best bet would be put it on Gun Broker since your friend wants to sell it and that will tell you what the market price is.
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Unread 07-19-2010, 06:37 PM   #7
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Perry: Everthing about the gun looks original except the butt which appears to have had a non-original buttplate installed. "The Book" has SN 202201 as a PP Grade (Grade 1 w/ Parker Special Steel barrels) hammerless, no extras (such as ejectors), capped pistol grip stock, 12 gauge w/ 30 inch barrels, made in 1923. I think that my estimate of value holds. You might want to order a letter from PGCA. It would tell you the original stock measurements and perhaps who ordered it.

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Unread 07-19-2010, 08:34 PM   #8
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That would be "Parker Steel" barrels on a PH Grade 1 as "Parker Special Steel" barrels were used on the GH or Grade 2 guns.

I know... just a technicality.
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A whole lot of figure in that stock.... maybe an early 60s or 70's restock.....
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That gun looks amazingly similar to my PHPS in the 207000 range;even the remaining case color on the tang is the same. Mine also has interesting but not exotic grain in the butt. It is a straight grip with very high dimensions. It has a pad fitted to a slightly curved butt.
Mark has indicated that many PHPS guns show as PHPT, but sometimes have a "black barrel " note.

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