Parker bros 12 ga fxf #119603

[Jimmy Lamb]

My mother-in-law had this in her cabinet and asked me to try and find out some info and possible value. It is in really good condition, 12 ga 30" barrel, still has original dog butt plate. It looks like there is a "P" above the serial # on water table. When I look on the barrel for model, it looks to be tapped out or just dots. The barrel is blued with no pitting or visible wear, it definitely wasn't fired much. I looked up the serial # and from what I can tell it is from 1903.

I don't know much about firearms but figured a little legwork might help me get her a idea.

[David Noble]

Pictures speak a thousand words.

[B. Dudley]

The serial number is not in the "book". So there is no way for any of use to determine the grade or original configuration based on that.

The grade will be stamped on the water table of the frame along with the serial number.

If you say the steel type may be wiped out with a punch or something on the barrels, that is concerning. It is either Damascus that someone blued over and trued to hide that it was. Or, the barrels are sleeved with fluid steel and the Damascus/twist marking is whipped out due to that.

This happened a lot years ago when Damasucs barrels we "unsafe" to shoot.

[Jimmy Lamb]

Fingers crossed these images show up. It is just a few, not sure exactly what the best places to photograph are.

[Jimmy Lamb]

A few more pics

[Eric Estes]

Looks like Brian called it. The T in a circle on the barrel flat indicates twist steel and someone chiseled off on the rib where it would have said Twist or Plain Twist, and then blued the barrels to hide the fact they are composite. That will hurt the value.

It is a P grade and looks like a nice old gun. What do the bores look like?

[B. Dudley]

The pattern is still showing somewhat through the bluing. So, they have not been sleeved or altered other than the bluing and the steel designation being wiped out.

It is a PH grade (or a grade 1 hammerless). Twist steel barrels. 12g 2 frame.

[Jimmy Lamb]

They look clean and smooth. I took it to local gun dealer / pawn shop and he had nothing but praise for its condition and how tight everything was.

[B. Dudley]

Well, i would not put too much trust in a local Pawn Shop owner to be a great judge on assessing condition of collectible shotguns.

Based on what you have shown. The gun appears to be solid and all there with no serious issues effecting shootability. Providing the barrels and bores are not compromised in any way. However, the finish condition is overall poor. This is really a 10-20% gun in a condition scale and it has the issues of blued barrels and a partially wiled out makers mark. Not that the gun may not be a good shooter, but it holds not much value in the condition category.
If your question is about value, it is more of a $500-700 gun. Give or take.

[Alfred Greeson]

What you said about your mother-in-law in the first post caught my eye. Any mother-in-law who has a Parker 12 in her cabinet is not to be messed with, mind your manners, don't cross that woman and enjoy that Parker, lot's of life left in it.