well today I got out my 8 ga wad punch and a 10 ga wad punch....my wife had a cat litter box empty so I cut it up and started making some wads out of it..the 8 ga punch is made out of some really good steel the 10 ga is a cheaper version....anyway I got a double handful of wads made up...I did this because shooting black powder melts those plastic wads and its a bummer cleaning the plastic out of your barrel....boy those Winchester wads that are placed backwards in those winchesterglued together shot really have some good patters..i shot some no 6 shot at 60 long steps it would have killed a turkey dead...I was shooting the 3 1/2 inch 12 ga with 2 ounce of shot...found the wad at about 20 yards still in good shape...I would never have thought turning a wad backwards would have worked so well...charlie
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