As Dave- a brother tool and die man has advised me of the Galazan's price of $30.00 (plus handling, packing, shpg.) and advised me that $25.00 would be fair if my pad is usable- and we have a new member possibly looking for same-I will offer it to him for $22.50 including shipping, and will full five day inspection option- here are the dims--in decimals (what we work with)-- OAL on black spacer 4.895" OAL on red pad face 5.060" developed angle at toe aprox. 31.5 degrees thickness including black spacer 0.8185" dia. of both through mounting screw holes is 0.178" and at red pad face (compressed 0.240"- no tears or rips or stress Logo is in all caps- HAWKINS - and in smaller case Caps- after the toe mounting hole PAT'D- pad has 11 vents equidistantly spaced triangluar shaped with a slight heart shaped dip or roll on the base leg- isoceles triangles I believe- This offer at $22.50 is ONLY for our new member-I think we all should "take the high road" with newbies- if they turn out to be Spammers or BOTs- we'll deal with that later- as in our system of jurisprudence- one is considered to be innocent first--