[John Taddeo]

Thanks guys,
I did not know how the 2 1\2 16 would pattern . I have always grouse hunted with various 20 loads in an old browning (depending on time of the season ) and now reserve myself not to shoot a bird that is not pointed. Change is good and if I can get the vh I think I will step back a few years in time and give it hell in the grouse coverts this fall.

Thanks again