Edgar, I have both Gamebore and Eley factory loaded Bismuth eights from Gary. The Eley are in Remington hulls and the Gamebore are in Winchester hulls, as I recall. I have not shot any, but I had to have them. I have a lifetime supply for US use, enough for a long vacation in the UK. I may shoot a few tame mallards with them when I recover from hand surgery. That won't be until next season.
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