Ok as most of you know, I have a new in box VHE 16 ga skeet gun. A couple of years ago when I displayed it at our annual meeting and 16 ga was the theme and it came in second place (lost out to Jim Hall's A 1 special, not bad for a lowly VHE....) after the meeting and a few weeks later I had offers from 20 to 30. Yes I still have the gun.