Hi Charlie, when I'm shooting a .410 or a 28 ga at ducks I put a flapper or decoy at twenty yards and try not to take shots beyond that marker. In fact I wait for the birds to flair or hover at that point in front of the blind or boat. I Don't think you would ever want to try pass shooting with these small gauges. The .410 only has 3/8 oz of #6 steel shot and the 28 puts out 5/8 oz so you pick your shots and let a lot of birds fly off without shooting. We are very fortunate here with our high duck count and can afford to be picky because another duck will be over the decoys in a minute. I hunt most days during the season and use the small gauges to make the hunt last longer and spend more time with my dogs. The 16 gives you a lot more help with a lot more shots and is an all around gun for just about all bird hunting situations. I limited out this morning in about half the time it takes me with a small gauge gun. The .410 and 28 shoot just as far as a 12 ga but the patterns are tiny, so this kind of shooting takes special conditions and may not be everyone's cup of tea. Bill
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