Hey Stan that's great information. I have a Tormek T1 and the Chef's Choice, I prefer the Tormek by far. The ONLY issue I have with it is that's there one grade of grit on the wheel so if you're really dull it can take a very long time. For kitchen knifes it's fantastic. I have a friend who can shave with any knife he has, all on a whetstone. I asked him how he did it and he said, "Get old like me and hope you don't die before you learn.." He's 85 but that's all he every knew. I still try, but it sure is hard as you mention.
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