Almost a pound less when the 12 gauge was in use without tubes. Balance point moves forward also when tubes were installed. Of course, most four gun skeet shooters use an under barrel weight when using the 12 gauge. Also, a Krieghoff with tubes balances like a mature snapping turtle on the end of a shovel. I shot tubed Krieghoffs for decades and never thought much about balance. At nine pounds plus, balance wasn't as important as upper body strength and thousands of rounds of practice.
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