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			the trouble with the oral meds is the tick has to bite to die, so they can get off onto you or into lodging.   I have had ticks get off the dog - onto me and then bite.
 so,  I gave up on the collars,  I still use the orals and treat the dogs during the season with the Sawyers -  one treatment lasts for weeks and I have seen a significant drop in the ticks after a trip to the woods - and I treat my boots, pants and shirt collar, cuffs and plackets
 
				__________________"If there is a heaven it must have thinning aspen gold, and flighting woodcock, and a bird dog"  GBE
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