the rem hulls are strong and will load many times..they hold there memory crimp almost to good..putting the wadding in is a little tough some times... not a good hull to roll crimp but they are a good hull all the way around...the whinchester hull will roll crimp as good as a paper hull there memotry crimp is not near as good as a rem.. and they will not load as many times.... so in my opion use the remington if you want a long lasting hull and use the whinchester hull if you want to roll crimp.... charlie
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