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					Originally Posted by  Chris Robenalt
					 
				 
				Craig, I've been studying the grain of the stock on that 8 ga. Years back, my friend/PGCA member brought this 8 ga down for all of us to shoot during one of our dove hunts. Both guns have identical fiddleback stocks. I know he sold his. Any chance of them being the same gun? It's a beautiful gun and quite the experience to shoot! 
 
Chris, AZ 
			
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 If you mean Mr. Phil that’s who I got the hammer gun from 

 I’ve had possession of the brute a little over a year and I’ve had it at three or four places where most of the folks have never seen much less shot an 8 gauge and almost all had big eyes when I handed the gun to them . To be perfectly honest I’m finding I can shoot the slightly more open PH than I can the longer barreled hammer gun . The last targets were shot with the PH .