the 1 3/4 ounce load is probly the best all around load in the 8 ga...I too have shot 3 ounce loads in the 8 and 10 ga. in the 10 ga the patterns were not that good out of a full choke Ithaca mag 10...in the 8 ga pattern were fair but a 2 1/2 ounce load the patterns was really good a turkey would not stand a chance...I have some factory Winchester loads with 2 ounce of shot and 7 drams of black powder that probably was a super stout load...that is the heaviest old factory loading I ve run across....charlie
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