If you just can't find a workable combination and it'll keep a 12 year old shooting I'll bag up 100 of mine, Sporting "S" 20 ga. wads, and send'em to you. I use them in straight wall hulls like Cheddite, RST, etc. They will be short ( I use them in 2 1/2" shells) but card wads are cheap and still currently available. I also know of guys using Cherios and pinto beans to "bulk up" light loads so they crimp well!
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