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					Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon  Gosh, Andy, I hope you got them all out.  Those vile quills can travel unseen and cause lots of issues.  But, if this is Otis' 5th time, you are probably a pro at extracting them.  I hate porkies!  I don't hate much, but they are on my list for sure. | 
	
 I got them all.  I know they can be a real problem.  I hog tied him with duct tape and then jammed a 2" stick in the back of his mouth while sitting on him.  He bled like a stuck pig.  After the first two times that cost me $400 each time with a vet trip, I learned to do this. That's why I hog tie and get that mouth open.  Being a Lab his memory is about two seconds.  He still loves me.