bill is those inserts 8 ga to 10 ga or 8 ga to 12 ga...I have the 8 ga to 12 ga inserts...I have shot several of the 3 1/2 inch 12 ga magnum shells thru them....those 12 ga magnums still kick pretty good in those heavy 8 ga guns....I wish I had the 8 ga to 10 ga inserts....charlie
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