I managed to get the hull out by moving the ring back with a screwdriver and pliers to get the hull out. A major use of tools for me  I'm just getting back from quail hunting in Georgia and brought back a big case of gout that finally is on the mend so I'll mess with this again shortly.
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There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter...Earnest Hemingway
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