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Unread 01-18-2020, 03:53 PM   #17
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That is correct John. But some fellas pushed the envelope a bit

Kansas City, Oct. 23 1897
A remarkable exhibition of live pigeon shooting was given at Exposition Park, this city, yesterday afternoon, when Fred Gilbert, of Spirit Lake, Ia., and J.A.R. Elliott, of this city, met in a match at 100 live birds for $100 a side and the DuPont trophy, which Elliott won from C.W. Budd a few weeks ago with the score of 99 out of 100. The match was for the DuPont trophy at 100 live birds each man, 30 yards rise. Gilbert and Elliott tied at 97, then Gilbert won 25 to 24 in the shoot-off.
Gilbert used an L.C. Smith hammerless gun, 3 3/4 drams DuPont smokeless powder, 1 1/4 oz. No. 7 chilled shot in Winchester Leader shells.
J.A.R. Elliott used a (7 1/2#) Winchester repeating shotgun, 3 1/2 drams “E.C.” powder, 1 1/4 No. 7 1/2 and 6 chilled shot; Leader shells, loaded by Winchester.

1 1/4 oz. 3 1/2 Dr. Eq. BULK Smokeless was about 11,500 psi; the modern SAAMI max. for 2 3/4" 12g
and 1 1/4 oz. 3 3/4 Dr. Eq. (1330 fps) in an 8# shotgun = 29 ft/lbs free recoil
1 1/8 oz. at 1200, (3 Dram) 7.5 # shotgun = 23 ft/lbs of free recoil
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