[mobirdhunter]

Without legitimate sights, I'm not sure I understand how there can be a "universal" point of aim (one that would translate from shooter to shooter) for a given shotgun. The stock configuration is a major determining factor in where the gun shoots at whatever distance it was regulated for. Double shotguns are not meant to be aimed, but rather, pointed. Part of the difference in stock drops in older v. newer doubles has something to do with how shooters mounted guns at those different points in history (older shooters held their heads higher than more modern shooters). Add in different individual facial features (measurements) and it can get pretty complex.

I have some doubles that have a lot of drop. I have to consciously aim more than point them. I can't hit a flying bird worth a darn with them, but they work fine for squirrels and turkeys.

I've not had good luck with laser devices, but I'm sure mine were too inexpensive to have any sort of quality control.

I must admit I find this post confusing. The only time I've had issues with a double gun NOT shooting both barrels to the same point was when the barrels had been cut. My tests were all done "pointing" rather than aiming, though, so that's probably why I'm puzzled by all of this.