the ten ga short 2 7/8 shell with bismouth bb size shot will cleanly kill a duck a big duck or goose at 70 yards and the 3 1/2 inch 10 ga with 2 1/4 ounces of bismouth bb shot will kill cleanly at 70 yards...i have tested these guns many times on paper and cans....the holdback to this range at 70 yards is having a person who can handle one of the big guns and bee able to shoot them well...the 12 ga 3 incg gun and the 3 1/2 inch 12 ga will also kill cleanly at this range...the guns are capable but most shooters at this range are only sky busting them but the right man with these guns will be as good ascaptain charles askins and elmer keith.....my dad was a fine long range duck shooter but i am not with the same gun.....charlie
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