one thing for sure about these brass shells if you have a bore thats a little large the brass stretches and it will only fit the gun you shot them in...i was on a shooting sree this evening i got out my winchester model 160 automatic 22 and went thru a coupla boxes this evening then i got down 2 differant 25 automatic pistols shot 2 clip full at a coke can at 10 feet never touched that can.... all this made for a good afternoon....charlie
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