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					Originally Posted by  Gary Laudermilch
					 
				 
				I doubt you will find published data for Red Dot in a 20.  I am assuming you desire to load 7/8 oz. 
 
Years ago I did extensive pattern testing of 8's through chokes ranging from cylinder through .012 or Lt. Mod.  I tested 800x, Unique, Universal, 20/28(which was new at the time), Green Dot, and Winchester WSF.  I also tested International but discarded it because of the pressures it generates.  Shortly thereafter Alliant pulled all of their 7/8 oz Green Dot loads from their published data citing erratic pressures in some load combinations.  Regardless the load, I never achieved anywhere near suitable results through cylinder choked guns (4 tested).  I did achieve the most consistent results through chokes .006-.012 but never tested any chokes tighter than that.  The criteria I used to make my decision was clean/complete burn, pattern consistency and repeatability, velocity consistency, load metering through a Mec 9000, hull life, and availability.  My results were 1)WSF, 2)20/28, 3)Universal, 4)Unique, and 5) 800x. 
 
Since then I have loaded close to 70,000 WSF shells and have had not one problem through all temperatures.  Even during the powder shortage I was able to locate WSF with a bit of searching. 
 
My current load: 
Remington STS hull 
Win 209 primer 
Claybuster 1078-20 wad 
7/8 oz of Eagle magnum 8's 
16.7 gr. WSF 
Velocity at approx. 1175 and pressure in the low 10k range. 
 
Hope this helps. 
			
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 Over 25 years ago I used 473AA in the 20 gauge exclusively then Winchester in their infinite wisdom saw fit to do away with 473AA and bring out WSF . After that I used about 40 pounds of WSF in the 16 and 20 gauges . But back then I was devoted almost exclusively to WIN products . Of your list I keep and use 3 of the 5 on your list, never tried 20/28 and never cared for 800X .
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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