My Remington hammer gun has rather long primers and pierces a lot of Win209's even of low pressure. The good side is that I can take a shell that other guns, especially some of the newer hi-tech ones, won't seem to shoot after 2-3 tries and the old Remington makes them smoke. I can tell when I shoot old paper shells in it that the primers are considerably thicker as they rarely pierce. I reckon they're all using thinner metal these days to save that micro-cent per primer...
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