Ebay has 600s and Versamecs. You may not need a short kit. Some of the 600s and Versamecs have threaded main shafts and can be moved down to accommodate short hulls. Check the one carefully before you buy. The newer 600s, jnrs., and Older Versamecs can accomodate the auto primer while you may hve to ream the primer to allow the primer drop tube. Parts for all these are still available via Mec. Look at their website. Manuals and parts list are free and downloadable. i have four 600s, one each for 12,16, 20, and 10. All are set for Remington hulls. Like Bill, I use 3/4 oz. Clay Buster but Clay dot or 700x. Low recoil for 120 year old damascus hammer and hammerless. Have not tried 1/2 but might using Bill's specs. Use 3/4 DR wads in 16 with 20/28, Universal, PB, and 7625, what little I have left. Very low recoil. Had the 20/28 tested 5000-6000 range, with speeds in the 1100-1200. works for me. RST 16 hulls on a mec 600 with the shaft lowered. Hope this helps.
good shooting,
John
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