Okay - I see where you're coming from. No offense intended but, I'm not in that camp so I can't address those issues you bring up as not being significant to you.
Have you considered a BT-99?
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"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."
George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
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