I hunt in a very large cattail marsh even with a master hunter dog you better put a late season mallard or black down or the chances of recovery are reduced. There is nothing like 1 3/8oz of TM #5's it just puts birds down in my experience. A trained retriever and big guns capable of digesting big shells will not disappoint. Just buy a Super Fox and a case of 1 3/8 Oz TM and learn to shoot if you want to experience waterfowling at it's best. The only better tool is a 10ga. 2 7/8" loaded with a heavy load of bismuth. OK beat me up.
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