Nope no deal. If you have/had ever shot a pigeon ring you'd understand. Ernie saw one at the U.P. shoot and has tried (and failed I guess as it hasn't ever worked) to duplicate one for his shoot. Come shoot at Medford, WI over fathers day weekend and experience one. You'd be impressed.
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There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter...Earnest Hemingway
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