Dean ,Rich inherited the Little 410 from a Great Uncle a few years ago,He was so tickled with it ,he just stuck with it till he could crush foot released targets then put his old 12 Gauge Ithaca away and has carried the 410 for Pheasant ,Grouse and Woodcock since ! As for the VH 28 , I had bought the DHE 30" Barreled 28 and loved the looks of the gun but it wasn't a Grouse Gun ,just fine in the field where you had more time but for Old Ruff , I really like the 26" Barreled 28 V Grade and generally I shoot it well ! At 5 and a half lbs. it is a real Joy to carry ! Some times I take the 410 but seem to spend too much time worrying about the gun and not enough time worrying about the Grouse ,Works Great for Pheasant in more open areas where I don't really concern myself with brush and crab apple and white thorn ,you know those Heavenly places Old Ruff calls home

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