OK- point taken Dave. I'm one of those real old school guys- when i can endorse a long-time friend who happens to be a master gunmaker, I am pleased to do so. But if it 'rings your chimes' I'll go back and delete the hunting/shooting/sharing with Vets who otherwise can't get out Parts. See you at lapeer in April- if you still have that 12 Hammer (oops- my faux pas- we can't sell or advertise Parkers here- just certain parts)--