thanks holeshot..my round ball is not perfect either but i can not use a wad with my round ball load its to tight in the hull by doing that...guess i will not get to try the shot with it..but i will keep your idea in mind even better it will go in my notes so i wont forget.after i get a deer with the 8 ga ball i will try the 10 and other ga s your idea might get put to use then.. charlie
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