daryl i m using blue dot in the 8 ga and use tom arbrust info on the 8 ga.. i also use pyrodex and triple 7...50 grains of pyrodex and 1 1/2 ounce of lead shot makes a really goods lite load in the 8 ga..i ve shot several of these loads rolled crimped.. no recoil felt but plenty of power will cut oak leaves away up in a tree... i alsoi have loaded clays powder in the 8 ga seemed to work fine in lite loads... charlie
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