wayne the glueing in of the top wad is a good idea of darrels...i use a hot glue gun myself sometimes..this is good for shooting clay targets and cans but for hunting loads i have learned to roll crimp the loads dont have near as many bloopers... darrels swaging tool is probably does a factory looking resizeing one the hull but the pliars i made work just fine..i use both the remington hulls and thewinchester hulls with the winchester being my favorite hull the clear one it sure makes a pretty looking shell loaded the first time but it will get dark after a coupla loadings.. here is the lightest load i have for 8 ga. this load was taken from tom armbrust book 4 and 8 bore loadings... shell 8 ga 3 1/4 inch winchester polyformed yellow plastic basewad..primer win. 209... powder30 grainhodgdon clays... wad remington sp-8 plus 12 ga .135 nitro card.. crimp 6 fold velocity 1227 fps.. pressure 6800... forgot 1 1/2 ounce of 7 1/2 shot..... charlie
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