loaded up 5 shells with the red dot load using 22grains and 1 1/8 ounce of no 6 lead shot..recoil not bad...patterns very good..now this is the short 10 ga loading...i shot at 50 steps at a foam dinner plate roughly 9 inch in diameter...put9 shot in the plate.. next shot at 45 steps put 21 shot in plate..next shot at 40 steps put 30 shot in plate.next to shots were at 35 yards put46 shot in plate..last shot at 35 steps put the plate full did not count them...this will be a very good load for the hunter or thetrap or skeet shooter...i think if a fellow dropped the load to 19 grains of red dot it would be really soft on shoulder and break clays out to 50 yards with ease...very clean burning... i did use the crimp that JACK told about i can not think of the name at the moment but its the one were you use the first crimping stage and then follow up on the 2 nd stage crimp but put very little pressure on this stage only close crimp about a third of the way..its not a pretty crimp but its very good on those old tough remington green plastic hulls...i shot all these loads through the old parker ph 10 ga with twist steel barrels... try this red dot its a good load.... charlie
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