phil if you do not have TOM ARMBRUST S book 4 and 8 bore you need it its got a lot of good reading and pictures of these old cannons and the best part its full of reloading info on the 8 ga and the 4 ga...i use this info often and the book is not bad in price i think it was 27.50 when i bought it a few years ago...and mr arbrust will talk and answer any question you have about the big guns.plus he can and will load custom loads for anyone at a fair price... you will like reloading these old shells you really dont need a lot of equipment...a old 10 ga lee 3 1/2 hand loader a roll crimper from ballistic reloading a set of good powder scales ..also you must have a rezizing die for the hull as you know the industrial 8 ga hull has a small built up ring on the brass to keep a loaded industrial hull from going into a 8 ga gun..the resizeing dye can be bought i do not have the were abouts of it...but i can tell you how to take a cheap set of pipe pliars and do a good job with them...it will not be as pretty as the resizing die but does ok for me.... i have learned most of the 8 ga info i know rite here from all the guys...will help with what ever i know for anyone...dont let destrey fool you he and bill are very very good at knowing about these old guns...i owe destrey a lot he sold me my first old 8 ga a f. a. loomis... good luck with the hunt.... charlie
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