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Steven Dodd Hughes 03-14-2013 06:47 PM

Barrel Flat Marking
 
Hello all, I am researching a Parker for a Shooting Sportsman column and am wondering if anyone know what the HT over A marks on the barrel flats represents? Or the tiny K between the lumps? I've got the rest of the marks figured out.
BTW: this is one of the most informative collector's sites I've been to, congrats and thanks,
Steve Hughes
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Brian Dudley 03-14-2013 07:31 PM

The marks you mention would be various makers or inspectors marks. A common makers mark on barrel flats is WK which was for Walter King, who was a barrel contractor before becoming superintendent. At the time your barrels were mAde, I do not think King was working in the barrel department, so I doubt that the K has any connection to him.

To sum up, the HT over A or K are not very significant markings. Not like the weight stamps, the barrel steel marking, or frame size.

Dave Suponski 03-14-2013 07:36 PM

Stephen, The HT/A is believed to stand for "Heat Treated/Annealed" Also the "K" is an inspectors mark that I have seen before. This is only conjecture on my part but my thought is this is King's mark. Parker Bros. superintendant. Parker Bros. used many employees as vendors and once they completed work on a gun it was in many cases's stamped with their mank. Hope this helps....

Dean Romig 03-14-2013 09:57 PM

The K mark of Superintendant Charles A. King was only used until 1010 (around serial no. 152721) after that his son Walter King was superintendant and his stamp was WK. We can't say for sure if the K on that gun you show can be connected to either King, the father or King, the son. Secondly, both of their stamps were on the flats and not on the lug that we know of.

Ed Blake 03-15-2013 09:15 AM

What is special about this gun that it requires an article? Past owner? Unique features?

Steven Dodd Hughes 03-15-2013 12:45 PM

My thanks to all for your insight. I guess we can sum up the HTA and K markings as "unknown" or "unexplainable".

Anyone study barrel weights as in: these are marked 3/13 ("before striking") and now weight 3/5. That seems like a lot of difference especially with the parts added. Any known definitive explanation?

The reason for this gun appearing in my column it that it is the most generic Parker I have in my workshop. I have never featured Parker guns in my 20 years writing Fine Gunmaking for Shooting Sportsman. It is an opportunity to introduce basic Parker info, the PGCA (great website!), a few lesser known books and an internal view of the gun to the readership.

I hope you aficionados approve when you see the column (July/Aug 2013?)
Best,
Steve

Dean Romig 03-15-2013 12:53 PM

Steve - we'll be honored to be mentioned and very pleased that you are doing a piece on the Parker Shotgun.

Dean

ED J, MORGAN 03-15-2013 01:33 PM

What is ser. no? Could it be a remington gun ?

Tom Carter 03-15-2013 04:27 PM

Ed Morgan
 
Ed, Glad to see you're up and about. Tom

Dave Suponski 03-15-2013 05:35 PM

Stephen, Page 583 in "The Parker Story" by Mullins, Price et al shows a copy of DelGrego's notebook that lists the HT/A as a designation for mild steel. The HT/A would certainly equate to a steel that has been heat treated and then annealed. In my experience in the machining industry we have used like markings. Just for the sake of clarity...Hope we have been of help and looking forward to your article.

Ed, Great to see you posting. Get well young man.


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